Everybody wants to rule the world, at least according to the English pop-rock band Tears for Fears. In the galaxy far, far away, though, people want to rule a lot more than just one world. They want to rule everything and everyone with an iron fist. Many have tried to take over the galaxy, but few have succeeded to the degree that Emperor Palpatine and Supreme Leader Snoke did. Now that the dust from
Was Supreme Leader Snoke more powerful than Emperor Palpatine? Did Snoke out-Palpatine Palpatine? We’ve run the numbers and the answer might just be yes, according to research from our senior news producer and resident Jedi Knight, Jesse B. Gill. Before you flip your desk over in a fit of prequel meme-fueled rage, though, watch our video or read on and hear why we there might just be a new contender for the Most Effective Villain in
We may not know the precise details of how exactly Snoke became the Supreme Leader of the First Order, but there’s enough fresh information out there to suggest that he is one of the most powerful Force users in the modern
Both of these vile villains exhibited a vast understanding of the dark side of the Force that helped them achieve their goals, but the novelization of
Futhermore, we know from Timothy Zahn’s 2017
When it comes to combat skills, there’s no question that Palpatine was far more capable with a lightsaber in his hands than Snoke. Not many people can launch into a 920 corkscrew spin from a prone position and that includes the Supreme Leader. Just ask Yoda, one of the greatest swordsmen in the history of the Jedi Order, who had to fight the Senate in the Senate while the Senate threw the Senate at him. Palpatine’s effortless defeat of Darth Maul and his brother Savage Opress in
Both baddies took impressionable young apprentices–Darth Vader and Kylo Ren–under their wing and turned them into deadly killing machines who serve the dark side. Palpatine transformed Anakin Skywalker into Darth Vader through years of face-to-face interactions and strategic manipulation, which is well-documented. Snoke, on the other hand, did the same thing, but as far as we know he may never have even met young Ben Swolo before the troubled youth quit Luke Skywalker’s Jedi Temple in the most spectacular way possible. Snoke’s demonstrated ability to manipulate Force sensitive people and connections over vast distances is something that we saw firsthand in
Kylo Ren wound up fulfilling the destiny that Darth Vader could not: proving himself to be the superior killing machine and replacing his master as Supreme Leader. If nothing else, it’s a testament to the quality of his training under Snoke. Speaking of killing machines, one must admit that as far as doomsday weapons go, Snoke’s Starkiller Base was more efficient than either of Palpatine’s Death Stars. While all three suffered from pretty much the same fatal design flaw, the numbers don’t lie: Snoke’s system-killer was more effective superweapon.
The question of which dark lord was more powerful demands that we look at the ultimate accomplishments that each can claim, which is why we think that Snoke has the edge. Palpatine manipulated two opposing sides into a galactic war and used the ensuing chaos as a means to create an indomitable military and install himself at the head of a ruthless totalitarian dictatorship. Snoke basically did all of that, too, but without those pesky Clone Wars or the politics. He seized the remains of the military apparatus that Palpatine built and made it stronger. And he did so in secret before using it to wipe out the entire New Republic government. He may not have been the most original thinker in the galaxy, but he was definitely effective in his villainous output. When Palpatine perished, his Empire failed, plunging headlong into chaos and ruin as Imperial survivors scrambled to grab whatever power and military assets they could. When Snoke died, his Empire kept chugging along, now under the control of his former apprentice. Their legacies are undeniably intertwined, but Snoke’s Galactic Empire 2.0 seems to have more inherent stability when it loses a head of state.
But what do you think? Who was the more powerful villain, Snoke or Emperor Palpatine? Will the galaxy be better or worse off now that Kylo Ren is in charge? Let us know in the comments below.
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