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The Wrong Horse (with Paul…
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The Indoor Kids #12: The Wrong Horse (with Paul Scheer)

Paul Scheer (NTSFSD:SUV, The League, Human Giant, Children’s Hospital) has made some terrible decisions when it comes to choosing consoles. In the past he has owned Sega CD, Sega 32x, Atari Lynx, and even the Philips 3DO. He comes over to talk about what it felt like to always have the wrong console, and The Indoor Kids end up talking about an alternate history of video games, full of promises broken and games unreleased.

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  1. Sporin says:

    My friend Dan bought a Sega CD while we were in college. PS2 was the big system then iirc but mostly we just played sports games.

    Anyway, he spent a considerable portion of his saved up money on the Sega CD and we were sure it was going to be the next big thing.

    It wasn’t. The only game I remember was Cliffhanger, based on the Sly Stallone mountain climbing movie.

    Love the podcast!!

  2. Ryan S says:

    Here is some info on the Magnavox Odyssey.

    I’m pretty sure it’s the screen overlay system they are referring to.

  3. Sky D. says:

    I am enjoying these podcasts, even if they don’t get everything correct.

    Systems I have owned:

    Atari 2600, Gameboy, Game Gear, Lynx, Jaguar, NES, SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, 32x, TG16, Neo Geo Pocket (B&W and Color), PSX, PS2, PS3, Dreamcast, Saturn, Xbox, Xbox 360. Never had a 3D0!

    I also worked at an arcade, so played pretty much every arcade out there.

    And it’s ROB the robot for NES, Gyromite was the game.

    You mention the Saturn and Playstation, the Playstation was originally planned to be a CD addon for the SNES. 7th guest was supposed to be the first game for it. Saw it in nintendo power and I wanted one sooooo bad!!

    Double Switch for Sega CD had Corey Haim, while Night Trap had Dano Plato from Diff’rent Strokes.

    Can I come on show??! 🙂

  4. Michael P. says:

    ‘Love Paul Scheer’s Alternate Gaming History! Fantastic episode!

  5. Nick says:

    I’ve liked Paul Scheer for years, but now that I know I wasn’t the only kid with an Atari Lynx, I like him even more.

  6. markus says:

    I was just keeping shit healthy and interesting. This is the internet. But yeah, I was an ass. Best wishes.

  7. Marielle says:

    I’m surprised no one mentioned the Sega Game Gear in there. I had one of those, and it was the first big game thing I bought myself. 🙂 I feel like it didn’t have the success it should have, because I loved the color screen and the controls…felt like it fit the hand better, and this was at a time when the game boys were still the big clunky green screen ones. I actually wish I still had the Game Gear because there were some really fun games I remember playing on it. (Oddly, one of my favorites was a Garfield game they had out for it).
    Just thought I’d share some video game nostalgia. 😛 I was curious too, has anyone played Alice: Madness Returns? That’s something I’m planning on picking up and I was just curious if you guys played it or its predecessor.

  8. Daniel says:

    Man, Paul Scheer’s talking about Odyssey, with the screens on the TV. It was my Dad’s, our first super crappy gaming system before our parents would get us a Nintendo. Fantastic!

  9. Germ says:

    Braid is a good entry game Paul

  10. Mike says:

    Awesome episode yet again. Not sure if anybody mentioned this but the Power Glove and XBox Kinect were basically developed by the same guy: Jaron Lanier. Thought it was funny that Paul mentioned both of them in same sentence.

  11. sam says:

    @brad, I didn’t before but now that’s all I can hear.
    (Markus: worst. podcast. ever.)

  12. Tony says:

    I have to disagree with the earlier commentor’s assessment that the guests haven’t had that emotional connection.

    I think the thing that bothers some people (not myself) is that there isn’t always the need for Kumail and Emily and guest to be “Experts”. They don’t always know the name of every system or have the exact right name for a game or character. As a community, nerds tend to have that attention to detail and minutae to the point where they lose the forest for the trees. Hence, I’ve read people complaining that the hosts “don’t know anything about games”. It’s not the point of the podcast and somepeople seem to miss that.

    PS: the 3d NES racing game was “Rad” Racer, not Ridge Racer… I just couldn’t help myself.

  13. Brad says:

    Who else read Markus’s comment in the voice of the Comic Book Guy?

    This was a great episode!

  14. Vincent S says:

    omg lol, “Game it UP!” didn’t stand the test of continual podcasting. The episode and Paul Sheer was awesome.

    ps: Game it up!

  15. Robert Hoppe says:

    As an owner of the Sega CD-X (look that shit up) here are the games mentioned if anyone is interested:
    The Cory Haim game: Double Switch
    The Nuke Fallout game in the South(that is actually an alien incasion game): Ground Zero Texas
    Sega CD has a shitload of bad games, but Eternal Champions, Sonic, and Snatcher weren’t bad

  16. Mr. V says:

    great podcast guys, just got into these a while ago. a few things to point out:

    the game that paul refers to where he had to place a piece of plastic or paper to the screen was likely from the magnavox odyssey, billed as the world’s first home console system. the games were printed cartridge boards with just numbers on them, no titles or graphics, and were pretty much cartridges without the plastic shell. there was no sound and players moved a thin white bar around with their controllers, which were knobs. the system came with a lot of overlays and interesting games to put on the tv screen. i remember seeing a roulette game, pong, and hockey. it’s pretty interesting to see work.

    not that it matters, but there was also another game for the ROB (the name of the robot was ROB, the game packaged with it was gyromite) called stack-up. although i agree with the ROBs shittiness, it did pull the video game market out of a pretty deep crash. nobody was buying the nes when it came out because video game systems had such a bad rep at the time, so they came out with this robot and marketed the nes system as more of a toy.

    as for the topic of hardcore vs casual gaming (which i highly recommend being a subject for a podcast if you want to inspire discussion), i do believe there is a definite divide towards the two groups, although the line is blurring now that gaming has lost much of the nerdy stigma attached to it. gaming to many people is their lives and is what gives it meaning and substance, so when people who don’t really view gaming as the center of their universe come in and say they love games too, some people will naturally feel as if their territory is being invaded and be defensive. markus’ comment, for example, might have been mean spirited and he did overreact, but clearly shows how adamant people are with their culture. it’s sort of like making fun of someone’s best friend. you might not have meant to hurt them, but people would obviously get very emotional.

    i do consider the most of the guests who appear on the indoor kids as casual gamers, not as an insult, but only because i feel most of them don’t have the same connection to games as some people do. some really depend on these games to escape and continue their lives (i.e. ali baker!) i find nothing wrong with this terminology and do believe distinction is necessary, just not the hate that comes along with it.

    here’s a good example of how some view casual gamers:

    anyway great job guys, keep it up!

  17. Kevin says:

    I think the system that Paul was talking about with the plastic screens was the Vectrex.

  18. Mr Jim says:

    Lol… I bought a 3DO as my 1st system *I* ever bought at 16 with my shiny new monies from like the first 2 months of my high school job. I FEEL YOUR PAIN PAUL. I remember some namco games like ridge racer being pretty cool, and others like Pyshcic detective being… weird. I liked what they were attempting with the 3DO as to mature the audience of gamers that grew up with atari and NES, but a failure it was. Oh and some shooting game that you shot at some obnoxious cowboy, I thought it was awesome. but yeah… anyway I ditched it early and ended up with the PS. Weird controller too.

    Dude, with the XBox flame, PS2 was the system it crushed that generation of consoles with sales hence the reason Kumail and Paul were lamenting missing some of the great exclusives sony had, just because sonyhad the user base to back it up.

    Honestly, I like the indoor kids view towards gaming. Don’t get me started on the entirely silly topic of “hardcore” gamers. IF someone plays video games and has any enjoyment of it, they’re a gamer. That’s it. No casual gamers, no hardcore gamers. Just people. Look at Brent Weinbach a few weeks back, I bet that guy would just crush people at his games. However he’s not hardore, because he likes genesis and Snes Nes etc and refuses the new games. Or look at my wife, she’ll crush anyone at Sonic the Heddgehog 2D games with speed runs/or points, but can’t fiure the controller out for an FPS. It’ just such a silly thing that’t makes no sense, and spreads that ridiculous and hateful behaviour that plagues online gaming.

  19. es puro azucar says:

    My bad, it’s actually Alex Kidd and The Lost Stars and I had forgotten he screams his hellish cries every time you take a hit

  20. es puro azucar says:

    Loved this episode! Mr. Nanjiani please do not let the markuses of the world annoy you, your podcast is awesome and your recollection of Alex Kid proved your worth as an old-school gamer. By the way did you ever play Alex Kidd in the miracle world? TOTALLY trippy graphics and his SCREAM when he died..! My God, it’s something outta bad acid trip!

  21. sam says:

    @Markus, maybe this is all one big misunderstanding. They didn’t say anything like:
    Kumail: “Black people and Mexicans are ruining this country!!!”
    Paul: “Agreed!!!”
    Emily: “Absolutely. Now let us now feast on this fresh baby. Hail Satan!!!”
    They actually made a very innocent (and true IMO) comment on the Xbox being the inferior of the two systems at the time. If you misheard them saying something along the lines of the former, your anger/mean-spirited rage is absolutely understandable.

  22. Rob P says:

    Old school game number munchers lol who remembers that?

  23. Rob P says:


  24. Great Episode.

    I am sorry if I misspelled your name Kumail in the email I sent. Hope you aren’t full of hate.

    I got Dead Island for my birthday, and look forward to trying it. I forgot we owned a 32 for Genesis. I only remember Virtual Fighter from that system.

    Oh yeah I loved the Intellivison.

  25. SHOGUN says:

    The 3DO version of Super Street Fighter II Turbo was a shitty port of the arcade version. It was all around a shitty console altogether.

    Do you guys remember when Apple was trying to get into the console wars during the mid 90’s with the Apple Pippin?

  26. Kumail Nanjiani says:

    Whoa markus! Lot of anger there buddy. Dismissal of not just our opinions, but also our lives as a whole! Very thorough.

    Firstly, we NEVER said there were no good games on the Xbox. I loved my Xbox and played it for years. However, it was our opinion that the PS2 was the correct console to get that generation. I missed games like God of War, Jak and Daxter, Metal Gear, Ratchet & Clank, Final Fantasy, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Resident Evil 4 and tons more. Even the GTA games didn’t make it to Xbox until years later. So, you should probably listen to the podcast again, and please post where we say that there were no good games on the Xbox.

    And I sincerely hope your ‘real’ job gives you half the satisfaction that our ‘fake’ jobs give us.

    I also urge you to figure out where all this anger is coming from, because I doubt anyone could hate a podcast enough to get so worked up. Maybe you’re dehydrated? Try drinking some water, that might help.

    Everyone else is wonderful & awesome. Thanks so much for listening!


  27. tyler says:

    3DO was definitely a bad choice, but an Atari Jaguar would have been worse. At least 3DO had a couple decent games (Gex, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, maybe something else?)

    The Jaguar was advertised as 64 bit, but most of the games didn’t even look better than a good looking SNES game.

    If Paul would’ve bought a Jaguar and a Nokia N-Gage, he would basically be the king of bad video game choices.

  28. markus says:

    I know this isn’t a proper gaming site, and Kumail and that lady his wife who no one knows aren’t exactly experts, but Jesus. The dismissal of the Xbox at the end pretty much sealed the fact that no one on this podcast knows what the hell they’re talking about. This is casual gamer nirvana, this podcast. It’s literally anecdote-o-rama. There were no good games on the first Xbox? Um, really? KOTOR? Morrowind? Halo? These games revolutionized the industry. I’m casual as hell and you people are ‘comics,’ you don’t have real jobs. You can’t figure this shit out?

  29. Jeremy says:

    Oh god, you guys touched on something briefly that made me crack up. Like Kumail, I couldn’t get my hands on any console games growing up, so I was forced to stand in supermarkets and read the gaming magazines. It was always the BEST when my mom would actually buy me one of those, and I was obsesseeeesed. I was totally that kid that used friends just to play second player in Streets of Rage and what not. The only difference is that Kumail was in Pakistan, and I was just poor in LA (though, incidentally, one of the friends I used was my Pakistani friend Josh and his NeoGeo, haha).

  30. Rob B says:

    I agree with Sam. You need to at least try Dead Island. So far, it’s my most enjoyed game of the year. Of course, that is most likely going to change with what’s still to come. The only problem is that for co-op everyone needs their own Xbox and game.

  31. sam says:

    Dead Island needs to be tried if you haven’t. It’s definitely not for everyone but I like it a lot. I’m pushing the hell out of this game on friends and thus far nobody’s hated it, some have loved it. If Borderlands and Fallout had a buggy child, this would be it.
    Buggy but awesome.

  32. tomthefanboy says:

    Oh thank you!
    I am home sick today and I wanted to listen to a podcast. I was crossing my fingers hoping that you guys would have a new one up!
    Always looking forward to you guys!