Joey Izzo is a filmmaker in Los Angeles, CA. He’s great. Dave’s a big fan of his. They talk about the oversaturation of people with art and culture and “content” in the modern world, and how they think it has both hurt and helped their lives. They also talk about detachment from your loved ones, and not being present in your relationships. Near the end, they discussed changes in DAVE. It was a great conversation. They both thought so. For real.