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Nerdist Podcast: Work It Out
Episode 471: Nerdist Podcast
Work It Out
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Nerdist Podcast: Work It Out

The guys sit down for another somewhat serious hostful. Chris and Jonah talk out some problems they have been having and Matt mediates!

Artwork by Shane Rossy


  1. Christel says:

    this episode is like looking at a car accident. You wanna look away, but you just keep looking. Publically shaming your employees is always a bad idea.

  2. NerdJockDad says:

    I may be a hostful apologist, but I thought this was brilliant. While we all know Chris, Matt, and Jonah are not perfect, it is really refreshing to hear them THIS vulnerable. Conflict is ok… as long as it is addressed in a mature manner and resolved. Well done Nerdist daddys.

  3. Chuck Landreth says:

    Yeah I’m not sure why anyone would want to listen to this you guys need to grow some man nuggets hug it out and get on with your day.

  4. This was one of the best podcasts….It’s rare you hear things being dealt with in such a mature, yet humorous and light way!x

  5. Listenig to this hostful reminds me of trying to go to sleep as a child listening to my mom and dad fight.

  6. Allison says:

    Just listened to this and I’m on Chris’s side for the most part but feel like Jonah a) did not apologize for leaving his friends hanging out to dry (just because the booker dude was like, “it’s cool man”, doesn’t mean it really was), b) Just because he’s friends with Chris and Matt doesn’t mean he can just decide to show up on their TV show whenever he wants to – I assume he gets paid by Nerdist to do the podcast and other stuff and doesn’t necessarily do it out of the kindness of his heart. BUT I agree with the above person who said that Chris is not Jonah’s dad and he needs to cool it with the life advice. If you’re mad at Jonah for not respecting your friendship and your working relationship, that’s all you need to say. You don’t need to justify it. I think airing this on a podcast isn’t cool BUT it might just be the punishment Jonah deserves to get called out for his irresponsibility. He sounded like a teenager trying to justify doing it for “the art” and “what’s best for me”. Whatevs – Hollywood doesn’t run on your talent – you have to get along with a lot of people to get those acting jobs you so crave.

  7. Ash says:

    I had a falling out with my best friend two years ago and we didn’t speak for about 8 months. I’m glad that Chris and Jonah were able to work things out relatively quickly and props to Matt for being such a good friend to both.

    I wanted to let you all know that my friend and I have a stronger bond now that we’ve resolved things and I wish the same for you. Thank you so much for posting; it’s encouraging to hear that other friend groups go through their ups and downs.

  8. fbzfbnf says:

    all of yall suck on chris’ hariy monkey man balls

  9. sunny_yammers says:

    Long time listener, first time poster.

    In many was this was a great open conversation, and I appreciate the willingness to share with us. This podcast and many aspects of Nerdist could not have gotten so far without a genuine fraternal relationship amongst The Boys.

    Now, some difficult words from a complete (although well traveled) stranger. I write them from a place of great respect for everyone involved. Seriously.

    I have long had a problem with Chris’ need to be an unsolicited life coach, even with major celebrity guests. Whether it comes from a need to constantly show he has life experience or if he actually feels he has the right in tell others what to do with their lives is unclear, and his business; the act of pushing that on others is not. This episode felt very much about Chris making sure he was disproportionally heard, as usual; and it felt as though Jonah was allowing himself to be critiqued without rebuttal, or his mild mannered tendencies just let Chris have his way.

    All adults should understand that it is never respectful to “speak for someone else”, and doing so is nothing more than an attempt to continue to control the conversation with a false show of “understanding” to the other person’s perspective or point.

    Chris: you are indeed not your friends’ parent; please learn to not come from that framework when talking to them. I also have a younger fiancee, as well coworkers and friends that are younger or just starting out in careers, and have had to learn not to get called a pedantic douche for unsolicited coaching. You clearly care very much for those you’ve given some shard of your heart to, and want them to succeed, which I deeply respect. It just doesn’t have to be your way.

    Matt: Simply understanding both sides of a disagreement is not mediation; making Chris pipe down and not take up 80% of the oxygen in the room would have been much more fair to Jonah.

    Apologies for the blather; 470 something episodes had built up.

  10. Ols says:

    I would have left this one in the archives somewhere. I super love you guys and have loved the year and a half since I found you, I hated every minute of the half hour before I bailed. I’m saying it because I love you.

  11. SkippyMcSkipperson says:

    Great episode. I didn’t really catch Jonah stating he was wrong for leaving @midnight in a bind on a holiday weekend. We all understand a better gig, but a commitment is still a commitment. Chris let him slide through that a bit.
    To all the Qwementers giving CH a bad time, go get some perspective. How have you felt when friends ditched you for something cooler? It’s bad enough when it’s personal but business is business.
    A few older episodes ago, Jonah was almost begging to be on @Midnight…

  12. Nick says:

    If you ever need a new best friend chris, hit me up!

  13. Jamie says:

    Hey Guys. I’m sure you get tons of comments like this, but I just wanted to let you know what a positive (especially the hostfuls) your podcasts are having on people.The past few months have been amazing. The fact that you’re willing to strip away the bullshit and lay out your issues is great. I hope it helps people to be more honest and authentic in their own lives. And Chris your comment about emotional responsibility really resonated with me. I’m going through a situation with a friend now to which it really applies. Keep up the good work.

  14. Bob says:

    Sorry guys but this podcast was misjudged.
    I appreciate honesty in a podcast but this podcast intervention for Jonas was too much. Like with the last hostful podcast ,”joking about Chloe’s false pregnantcy or Chis’s recent bereavement is too much. I also have gone through very similar events and I could not stand it if my friends where competing to crack jokes like that at my heartache and lose. Sorry guys. It’s just to glib. Chloe is a tough girl but all the stuff she’s gone through must have broke her heart.
    I’ve written this with the love and respect I have for all your talents and love you all obviously have for each other. But for me sadly it’s the pasting of the ways for us. Thanks for the laughs

  15. Christopher says:

    I thought this was an interesting Hostful that gives us more insight to the triumvirate of the Nerdist.

    In a way, I think of this epsiode as an example of the first time you meet an actor/writer/director of the thing you’re the hardest fanboy of…and they don’t meet the mental image of them you had in your imagination, for whatever reason.
    This isn’t to say anything bad about the troiyka, but it paints them in a more human light.

    I ROTFLMMFAO at the people who felt this episode was like “mom & dad arguing/fighting/etc.”…if ONLY my parents had fought like this there would’ve been less broken things, ruined holidays, drinking, etc. This was TAME as far as arguments go.
    It’s also possible that we’re seeing the tail end of any “argument” that happened, because as Matt mentioned Chris did call him irritated.

    I don’t have an issue with episodes like this one, because I would prefer that the people I’m fans of, whose content I consume, whose books I buy/shows I pay to see, are REAL. If these 3 were truly juicebags like some people are saying, would the majority of people on here be following them, the website, the content?

    And, as a biz “professional”, I do think Jonah dropped the ball here, and really needs to apologize in a non-politician genuine manner. In case people haven’t noticed, @midnight is the sh*t, and being on that show is really good for exposure to people you may not have seen/have a chance to see…just like the podcast.

    If Jonah is going to do something like that again, I would suggest he not do so. The world of the 3 Amigos here is built in Hollywood and on your work…and if you’re not working you’re not being paid. And in a job that’s not a 9-6 office slog where you need to hustle to do auditions, get gigs, sell scripts, etc. that’s really important.

  16. rhzunam says:

    Well I’m late here but I thought it was a great episode. I really don’t get all the people complaining about it being tmi, when the whole hostfuls are like that. If Jonah and others had problem with the episode, it wouldn’t go up. So you people should stop projecting on them about how YOU wouldn’t like that if it were YOU on Jonah’s end.

    And now that you keep on talking about improving yourself, Chris should take it to heart and stop with the thing about concentrating on the criticism. The majority of people liked the podcast but once again it’s the minority that didn’t like it, who you are basing your decision to not air stuff like this. Whether you hear it or not, stuff happens anywhere people and if Jonah is looking like he will leave, he will leave regardless we hear it or not. I expect the same people that complain, to be all “WTF” when Jonah suddenly leave and then complain that it came out of nowhere.

  17. anon says:

    So, that bit at the end where Chris says that maybe it was a shitty thing to do, to have this conversation on the podcast? I’d go with that feeling, personally.

  18. Jim says:

    Thank u for being open and sharing. It’s nice to laugh and grow with you guys so to speak. The podcast is like having the All Star versions of all of my funny friends making sex in my ear-hole. Jonah was a good sport and Matt’s comic arbiter relief was fitting. Love what u do.

  19. Zak R. says:

    This is supposed to be a “somewhat” serious hostful? SOMEWHAT?! Yikes. I could hear their feelings so clearly when things got tense, especially Jonah’s (because I’m very similar, it seems, about confrontation and responsibility). I’m glad they all got to cathartically talk things out, but yeah, maybe that should have been a friends-only kind of conversation. I mean, it’s good for US to hear that stuff, because it helps people understand how important communication is when feelings get hurt, but I wouldn’t want to air it publicly if it were me.

  20. sarah says:

    This was an interesting onsite into the relationship that these friends have. I found everything that was said to be true. I feel that Jonah was put in a tight spot and felt like he needed to make to choice of following what he wants to do and the obligations he made. Jonah should not bail on the commitments he makes so easily and I found that through this podcast he was able to more clearly express that his choice was not made without thought.
    I find it crazy that when we tell people what we want to do we get judge. This is why we don’t talk to one another.
    Much love to the three of you. This podcast showed me tire friendship with all its flaws and I love hearing/see that.

  21. sarah b says:

    also all of you ragging on chris for this are idiots.
    jonah bails out like, a day before the podcast is supposed to air. that’s totally unacceptable for that to be a habit, whatever the reason may be. stop acting like jonah following his dreams is an excuse for bailing out a day before. he’s using nerdist as a backup at this point, and it’s really sad to see chris being treated like shit + then being ragged on by his listeners.
    jonah is a toxic employee—his behavior is unacceptable. maybe this podcast will make up for all the ones he ditched last minute

  22. sarah b says:

    this was a really fascinating listen.
    chris, i think everything you spoke about was SO valid + almost not tough enough.
    jonah seemed complacent and arrogant—i felt angry on your behalf, chris, because his constant bailing on nerdist is incredibly inappropriate and in my mind shows he doesn’t care. i don’t think he really appreciates you or what you’ve done for his career + it’s only going to get worse. i don’t think he fully yet realizes the extent of his selfishness + it made me sad to see you get used like this. if you haven’t been hanging out w jonah it’s probably because he’s been treating you like shit by bailing out at the last second.
    and a quote that i feel is appropriate here:
    ‘when people show you who they are, believe them.’

  23. avengers3 says:


    the nerdist standing by his gf
    whom you said is
    —- knocked up —–
    by his friend shows he is good by standing by her

    —–avengers 3 table games ———