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Ned Stark Wants Back on GAME OF THRONES to Reveal THAT Mega-Spoiler

Ned Stark Wants Back on GAME OF THRONES to Reveal THAT Mega-Spoiler

Alright, Game of Thrones, fans. This one is serious. As in a spoiler — but not just any kind of spoiler. This is the sort of hypothetical spoiler that, should you want to remain blissfully unaware, will completely change how you look at Game of Thrones if you haven’t read the books or done a lot of speculative thinking as to everyone’s favorite bastard of know-nothingness, Jon Snow. If you don’t want to potentially have your brain melted and/or life ruined by this worst-kept-secret/speculative fan theory of a spoiler, then run away. Now. You have been warned so do not — I repeat: DO NOT! — come whining to us when the whole thing is ruined, mmkay?

Good. Now that we’ve got that nonsense out of the way: let’s talk about Jon Snow and his parentage. As many fans have long speculated, the Stark bastard cannot call Neddiekins his real daddio — and was confirmed in A Song of Ice and Fire‘s fifth installment, A Dance With Dragons (which will play a huge part in the series’ fifth season). During one of Bran’s many visions, he comes across his father Ned praying, who then reveals to Bran that he is not, in fact, Jon Snow’s father. So while Jon Snow is still a bastard, he’s no bastard of Ned Stark’s — not that anyone really, truly thought that of the most honorable man in the Realm. Right? (OK so maybe that’s just us book readers.)

And now actor Sean Bean has confirmed as much during an interview with Vulture, no doubt ruffling a few feathers over in George R.R. Martin, David Benioff, and D.B. Weiss’ collective cap: “I’ve definitely got some unfinished business that needs to be resolved there. I’m obviously not Jon Snow’s dad,” Bean said. “And you need that to be revealed at some point, don’t you? So Bran would kind of be the one having the flashback, and he would see Ned praying, right? And revealing those things? You never know what those guys are going to do with that. It’s got to be something special. But I’m into that. I certainly would be into that. Print that! Give them a nudge. [Laughs.] Hopefully I’ll get a call soon.”

This all, of course, points to a very long-held and seemingly legit fan theory as to who, exactly, Jon Snow’s real parents are: Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen. If you’ll recall back in the first book, Ned Stark mentions a “promise” that he kept to his sister Lyanna as she was lying near-death in a pool of blood. You see Lyanna was betrothed to Robert Baratheon but she was “kidnapped” by Rhaegar (who was married to Elia Martell hence all of last season’s Oberyn doings), inciting Robert’s Rebellion.

Now an alternative theory to this is that Lyanna was not kidnapped but rather she ran away with Rhaegar because they were in love, and she was carrying his baby (whom we all know as: Jon Snow!). Most of this is supported by tinier details: Ned’s honor obsession, the particular guards left at the Tower of Joy that Lyanna was hidden in being some of Rhaegar’s closest and best friends, the roses Ned remembers smelling in the room (her favorite flower), and of course when Rhaegar named Lyanna instead of his wife the “Queen of Love and Beauty” after a tournament win of his. All of this points not to Robert’s narrative of events, but another entirely. One that resulted in a wee prince being born.

And, well, Robert wouldn’t have liked that. Since he overthrew the Targaryens, the now-dead king had sort of a thing for killing off Targaryen children — so would it really surprise anyone that Lyanna would beg Ned to keep the baby’s true identity a secret? He, on more than one occasion, recalls that moment and ruminated on “the price he’d pay” to have kept his promise to Lyanna all these years. And, seriously, it would have to be one HELL of a secret for Ned Stark to forsake his honor and pretend he stepped out on his wife, eh?

So — what do you all think? Are Lyanna and Rhaegar Jon Snow’s parents? Should Sean Bean return to Game of Thrones to reveal that fact? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.

Comments

  1. Justin says:

    Also consider this, folks:

    There are three dragons.

    Three dragons need three riders.

    Only those of Targaryen descent have *ever* been able to ride a dragon (well established fact in the lore).

    Dany will ride one.  Her recently revealed half-brother (not in the TV show yet) will ride the other.

    And Jon Snow will ride the third (no way he’s actually dead, that cliffhanger had all the hallmarks of a red-herring).

    Three dragons must have three riders, because as all the dedicated readers know, the saga’s penultimate conflict will be that with the White Walkers, not between the throne contenders (and we know Dany is just going to reclaim the throne anyway). 

    And since obsidian (i.e. dragonglass) weapons are all gone now, that means only dragonfire can save Westeros…

    (oh and btw, we should also consider Dany and Jon hooking up as lovers to be 100% on the table… traditionally, Targaryens don’t have any issue with half-siblings doing the deed)

  2. rabid says:

    Jon Snow isn’t necessarily a bastard. Targaryens are weird when it comes to marriage, they have no problem taking multiple wives. So it’s possible Rhae married Lyanna and Jon is a legit Targaryen.

  3. Apryl says:

    Oh god I can see this now. Jon Snow defeats the white walkers and gets crowned king of Westeros. And the Lannisters let out a collective “F#@K!!!”

  4. Mapglove says:

    I feel like the theory has now become so obvious & widespread that GRRM will change it up, even if it was his original intention. Maybe that’s why it’s taking him a decade to write #6.

    • Justin says:

      I think he did something else instead as passive-aggressive retaliation:  that cliffhanger in the last book making it seem like Snow has been killed.

      He wants us to doubt the theory by seeming to kill off Snow while we wait these million years for the next book.

      But it’s BS.  Snow either survives his wounds, or he wargs into Ghost or something and survives that way before jumping into another human body later.

  5. Monica says:

    I’ve always thought that Jon’s parents might be Lyanna and Robert Baratheon, which would explain why he doesn’t have Targaryen hair.

  6. wdwdwdwdw says:

    He should come back for the flashbacks at least xD.

  7. d says:

    But his hair color…

  8. ALdo says:

    fantastic theory, but Jon Snow still remains a Bastard… so no major impact on Westeros

  9. Jason says:

    That would be great only Ned never says that in aDwD he prays that the boys  grow up as brothers and that Cat can forgive him. There isn’t any admission that he isn’t his father (although he’s totally not I am fully on board with the R+L=J theory 

  10. phi says:

    that might explain the look melisandre gave jon snow at the wall …

  11. Kirstin says:

    Lyanna didn’t die in a pool of blood, but a “bed of blood,” which in every other instance in the books means someone is giving birth.  

  12. Whitney Egelston says:

    YES AND YES AND A THOUSAND MORE YES’S!!!!

  13. Django says:

    R+L=J

  14. sean says:

    ya sory to say but SPOLIERS john snow dies at book 5 so who cares

  15. monica says:

    Desconfiei desde o princípio!

  16. wadebran says:

    Didn’t Daenerys also have a vision in the Houses of  the Undying of what would seem to be Jon’s birth?  (Book version)

  17. Kevin says:

    Wouldn’t Robert notice if his wife was pregnant? And if he did, wouldn’t he either a) think it was his, keep the kid, and he’d be the heir to the throne instead of Joffrey and the whole story would be different, or b) know it wasn’t his and kill it to save his family from humiliation? Plus, how would Lyanna hide being that pregnant for 9 whole months, and then all of a sudden not being pregnant anymore when Ned’s bastard was born? This theory has too many plot holes and not enough murdering-of-beloved-characters for a book written by George R R Martin if you ask me. 

    • Ok bub, 1. Lyana and Robert werent married, he just loved her. 2. Rhaegar kidnapped her and took her to the tower of joy for the almost the entire war that lasted about a year so plenty of time to have a baby. The baby was the heir to the throne so robert would haver killed it but Ned woulnt let that happen to his nephew. There are no holes really. reference the wiki of ice fire, jon snow theories and youll understand it almost has to be the truth behind the story. 

  18. Olivia says:

    Omg yes!! I was so sad to see Sean bean die in the first season! He I such a brilliant actor. And this would make Jon snow WAY more interesting!

  19. Jmom says:

    I always thought Jon looked more like a targaryan. I definitely want Sean bean back on GoT!! 

  20. Ben Fartpants says:

    I don’t recall A DANCE WITH DRAGONS actually confirming that Ned Stark wasn’t Jon Snow’s dad.  I thought that was still up-in-the-air at this point.  Am I wrong?

    • Johan says:

      Yeah the writer fucked up. Thats not in the book. Articlw writer pretends to now what he is talking about.

  21. SevenHells says:

    He might WANT to go back on GoT to reveal that but the way he just dropped that bomb I doubt they’ll let him back.

  22. Spoiled says:

    Does it really matter knowing what has already happened to him in the books?

    • kmarc says:

      Jon was stabbed. We don’t know if he is going to die and even if he does not everyone stays dead in GoT.

      • Cal says:

        The Mountain ring a bell?

        • Jon says:

          More importantly, Melisandre was basically standing less than a football field away from the event and keeps seeing Jon Snow in her flames.

      • sean says:

        he diesit’s very clear a very lame

        • Justin says:

          It is not clear.  It was conspicuously UNclear, actually, which practically confirms that he isn’t actually being killed off.

      • JOE says:

        Jon is bound to the wall until he dies, then his watch will end… so if we want jon to be part of the outside world and leave the wall with his honor. He must finish his watch and how can he do that??? by dying :))))))

    • Earl says:

      You’re an idiot he’s not dead. He was stabbed sure but he’s not dead. READ A BOOK tool learn a thing or two about drama and wait for it . . . cliffhanger’s. GRRM just set him up to become king of the north. Somthing he couldnt do as part of the watch. So he gets kicked out of the watch Danny comes over rules from dragonstone and kingslanding, Aegon rules in dorne, and . . . Jon rules as king of the north in winterfell. But hey what do I know.

      • Dawniel says:

        Yes he is dead. But who is at the very same castle where his mates put him down? That’s right…the red priestess. So what is going to work out- is Jon is dead as his vows require him to be. Melisandre will revive him- and he will be unburdened of his vows and free to take up the fight. Remember Stanis is very likely dead along with all of his troops as well. So…we shall see.

        • E says:

          GRRM already confirmed that he is in fact not dead. he “slipped” during an interview

        • Justin says:

          It’s always been obvious he’s not dead.  That ending was practically a textbook trope in that regard.  It was conspicuously non-committal about confirming Snow’s death, and that immediately gave it away that he’s going to survive, somehow.

          It might be because he wargs into a Ghost, though, or he might turn into what Benjen Stark became.

          Whatever the case, Jon Snow has not exited the story.

  23. cor2879 says:

    Whether true or not, Game of Thrones definitely needs more flashbacks with Ned Stark!

  24. Mia Jessica says:

    I didn’t think this was a hypothesis, I assumed this is what was happening in the books when I read them a few years ago. Was I wrong then? I feel really confused right now.

  25. Obvious Name says:

    AWWW… I just spoiled it for myself on purpose. That was a damn good spoiler though, I might use it on people and pretend I read the books.

  26. calamityjane says:

    called that in the beginning of the series. it just made sense.and yes, i think it’d be nice to see him guest in a few episodes to reveal the truth behind Jon’s parentage…but that is just me.

  27. GrumpyHumbug says:

    I held the belief that Jon Snow was Robert and Lyanna’s child, and Robert asked Ned to keep him safe as a potential heir in case things with Cersei Lannister went bad.  Jon has black hair, and “the seed is strong” after all.  I was never more than about 60% sure though.

    • Toke says:

      “The seed is strong” really just refers to dark hair being a dominant genetic trait. Lyanna also had dark hair as do all the Starks. So naturally Jon would be most likely to have dark hair. R+L=J is the only theory that makes sense IMO.

      • calamityjane says:

        yes, R+L=J *is* the only theory that makes sense.but which “R” makes sense to you.for me, it has always been Rhaegar…but is your “R” Rhaegar or Robert?

        • Toke says:

          obviously Rhaegar or I would’ve spelled it out :)

        • Jaqen says:

          it must be rhaegar. thus making jon of kings blood which makes him azor ahai which makes sense of melisandre seeing jon instead of stannis when she asks for azor.