James Bonding James Bonding #005: GOLDFINGER with Alie and Georgia Posted by Katie Levine on October 3, 2013 Share: Twitter Facebook Google+ Reddit Email Alie and Georgia come on the podcast to talk about the controversy they found in Goldfinger! Follow @JamesBondingPOD, @MattMira, and @MattGourley on Twitter! 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It must be so hard for you that your free James Bond podcast featured challenging ideas and guests that weren’t interested in just heaping praise onto an extremely dated and problematic film franchise. No one’s saying you’re not allowed to like Bond because of the sexism. But the sexism is there and it’s absolutely worth discussing. The problem is that nerds like you guys can’t handle a point of view that’s not your own. You can watch a movie like this and the sexism just rolls off your back because it doesn’t affect you and you don’t give a shit. But not everyone has the same perspective as you. Two women who have never seen a Bond movie before are obviously going to have a lot to say about the misogyny. I mean, seriously, did you people not expect them to ever say anything negative about how fucking sexist and homophobic these movies are? Pull your heads out of your asses and grow up. This is the world we live in. JW Stillwater says: March 12, 2015 at 1:49 pm And this is coming from someone who grew up with these movies and has a lot of fondness for them, by the way. It’s possible to understand that a movie you love is problematic and still love it. The fact that there are people who love these movies without examining any of their flaws just blows my mind. If you want to just pretend the sexism in these movies doesn’t exist or whatever, fine, but don’t act like these two women who were invited to have an open discussion about this movie are terrible people just because they didn’t want to. And by the way, major LOLs at everyone accusing the Matts of “kowtowing” and “white knighting” in this episode. From the very beginning they say that they weren’t really into the movie. The “eeeevil feminazis” didn’t bully them into saying that. And they were even HARDER on Thunderball, an episode featuring a MALE guest. Not everything is some SJW conspiracy you fucking losers. JW Stillwater says: March 12, 2015 at 1:54 pm God I hate Men’s Rights Activism and nerd culture. A bunch of toxic garbage that ruins everything. Learn to think critically about the art you consume. Learn to recognize problems in things you love. Learn to see other perspectives on things without feeling personally insulted. In general, stop getting personally insulted when someone dislikes something that you like. It’s not the end of the world. JW Stillwater says: March 12, 2015 at 2:02 pm Like holy shit, a startling percentage of the people commenting here seem to sincerely believe that the Matt’s are LYING about their opinion on this movie to impress two women. Like, the idea that the Matts might actually agree with some of what Alie and Georgia are saying didn’t even OCCUR to you. If that’s not delusion, I don’t know what is. OK I’m done. Jane says: February 12, 2015 at 8:07 pm I’m a little late to this party and have been binging on Bond and the listening to the podcast. It’s great and I love it, but MAN what a shift in tone on this movie. It’s hard to watch two guys who love the movie get stomped all over. And don’t get me wrong, this movie was SUPER rape-y, like, way worse the the first two bond movies. He full on rapes Pussy Galore, slaps Dinks ass, destroys a womans car, etc. There’s lots of comedy there to talk about. But listening to them was like listening to amateur MST3k or Benson Interuption. Like, we get it, the GPS is, like, from the 60s. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA soooooo funnnyyyyyy! Maybe comedy isn’t their thing. Bring back Emily and do this episode right, I’d love to hear her opinion on this. Margin says: February 9, 2015 at 9:19 am Always good to have new points of view. Would have been nice to have actual discussion of those points of view instead of pointing out the obvious misogyny and then embarrassed by it move on to talking about alcoholic drinks. I think Alie and Georgia could have really helped to get some discussion going about challenging whether Goldfinger is deserving of its status, but it didn’t got that way. So far after listening to each episode I’ve been entertained and felt I got a new perspective on the movie. There was so little discussion of the movie here that I didn’t get anything new out of it. Still, loving the podcast and will be listening to every episode (at least once), just disappointed that an episode that could have been awesome was tedious.